That's pretty much what's inside the INI, except for the boring notes and such.
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You haven't given all of the units that you start with a unit type such as vehicle or plane, that's why they won't show up, it'll work once you do that(give them a unit type I mean).
edit: btw, I've never seen you on Arc before, what alias do you use?
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OMG.... i actually missed that? man i'm getting forgetful. Sometimes, it seems that the more skilled i get at making an empire, the more things i forget to assign values to.
I've only played multiplayer once before, on telnet. I've never gone on mix server before.
Most of the time, i just challenge myself with 7 computers. 2 intruders, 4 geezers, and 1 smart geezers, all of them on highly aggressive/wild man/thinly spread. Takes a long time, but i still have my advantage: concious thought. XD
I might try mix server sometime, if i can get my empires to work and stuff.
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Lmao. That's interesting. I never knew that there were actually people who PLAYED Arcadia but never got ONLINE. If you get some people to play with, online is way better than computers. Although recently many people don't like to play so much, so you really gotta find the right times.
Dude, I was in no way freaking out about him not playing online. I was just shocked that someone actually plays a game like Arc without trying online very often. Beo, seriously, calm down, and try to ask yourself"Am I blowing things out of proportion all the time just because I dislike the guy, or is the thing I'm about to type actually a valid point?"
If you want to continue blowing things out of proportion, at least put it in a topic that is NOT dev/release notes. And please, get off my ass. You're the only one attacking.
Could the following be implemented as unit properties;
Anti-requirements: If X exists then Y cannot be built.
Morph-decay cost: Requires X$ to morph-decay, if there isn't enough $, then morph-decay happens as soon as enough has been gathered. (Could also have a value to reset the timer if there isn't enough money)
Morph-decay requirement: Requires X to morph-decay into Y, otherwise morph-decay as soon as X is built. (Could also have a value to reset the timer if requirement is not met)
Cloaking-distance: Pretty much the opposite of vision. An area of fog is created around the unit. (4 values to show fog for just allys, just enemies, both or none)
Quite a few more interesting empires could be made if those were added. Hoping this post gets read though!
There also appears to be a bug in the weapon efficiencies. I've only tested this with a few weapons, but bomb and industrial type weapons are only dealing 90% of their damage to buildings.
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Just replying to the last paragraph, the damage actually inflicted to an enemy unit will be less than the weapon power value you defined for the weapon even when the weapon is 100% effective against the enemy unit type. Dan explains this as an offset of "distance and accuracy of shot".
While I cannot confirm on the latter aspect (my guess is that it's just a fancy way of saying "random value"), I assume by that he means that the further you are, proportionally the less damage you are dealing.
So if you want a weapon that will always one-hit kill a soldier type unit with 100 HP, you might want to give it a power that is slightly higher than exactly 100, like 115 just in case the offset evilly turns on you
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I guess I'll take your suggestion and increase the weapon powers.
I don't believe it's that "random" though.
I've tested the damage several times. I used different weapons and a range of distances this time, and all the 100% efficient weapons only deals 90% of the damage to the unit type. It always damages for exactly 90% of the weapon power too.
I guess I'll need to re-work my unit values!
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I wasn't saying the damage output was random. There's a difference between randomized value and offset range.
By that, I mean that there would a rather stable (as I can tell from your test result) range of possible damage output, instead of always dealing the same damage when attacking the same unit type with the same weapon. So this wouldn't be, say, randomly random.
But to be honest, I've never even known about this "accuracy of shot" as a factor of damage output until I looked at the Empyrion webpage earlier today, so it is quite possible that Dan forgot to implement this feature although he had it planned in his mind (or none of this ever existed at all and he just wrote that off of on top of his head).
Not that I see the need to implement it, though. While it would be fun to be able to occasionally hit a "magnificent attack" (like headshot), it's always annoying when your enemy survives with like 7 HP even though you SHOULD be able to one-hit kill it. It just screws up the carefully crafted balance of the empires and the game itself.
I'm saying this because I'm playing Valkyria Chronicles right now
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Might I suggest a new valid value for [ws1]/[ws2] unit attribute, such as "3=Targets most effective", that allows the unit (or weapon, rather) to target and engage enemies that the weapon can damage most effectively? This, of course, should be used in conjunction with the [wb1]/[wb2] attribute.
I thought of this because all the [wb1]/[wb2] does is preventing the weapon from attacking enemies that are below the specified value at all, even though the weapon is still capable of hurting that unit.
For example, Smart Geezer's mammoth tank is equipped with a cannon with wb1=25, which means it will shoot at vehicles and buildings, but not soldiers and aircrafts. If it is engaging a gang of enemy tanks and bazookers, it makes perfect sense that it only shoots at tanks. However once the enemy tanks are gone, it stops attacking at all, even though the cannon can still hurt bazookers. The bazookers still love to shoot at tanks, so it's possible for a group of bazookers to wipe out a barricade of tanks without taking little to any damage, which is quite silly really.
If you could add a new weapon strategy "Target most effective" and apply that to a cannon weapon with wb1=20, the same mammoth tank will shoot at tanks first, then at soldiers when all the tanks are dead.
Comments, anyone?
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Also, I was scrolling through your empyrion guide, and thought that it would be interesting to support an 'impassable' terrain in a map, that blocks all units including aircrafts from crossing it. I've been gathering a few ideas in and out for correcting the balance over aircrafts VS vehicles; it would encourage players to build more vehicles over aircrafts in such maps.
Heck, if possible, in the future it would also be cool for terrains to allow only X types of units to cross. You could make a soldier-only terrain to create an indoor area illusion (i.e. bunker), or the long-awaited 'water' terrain that allows only ships to cross.
You could even do stupid stuff like "building-only" terrains so people could build a missile tower or a sentry turret atop some rocky field that soldiers or tanks cannot reach.
The last few paragraphs are me being a bit silly, but it never hurts to suggest anything, amirite?
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I love the idea posted above. I know this is a really old topic, but it's stickied, so whatever.
It would also be cool to set weapons able to do splash damage. It would completely revamp the current missiles and bombs. Splash damage would require more balancing though. No more 500 damage missiles if you put a big splash on it, it will kill every unit it touches, xD.
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