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Same rules as before. Feel free to add bugs and comments about A30 here. I will maintain a list of what all I have changed for A31, and will then delete your comments as it suits me.
================================ Patch A31 Our Motto: "Doesn't seem to be an emergency yet!" Estimated Release: Early-February? --------------------------------
* STRANGE SCENE-MATES. I guess it is the increase in the number of submaps and their layout which has increased reports of this bug (since it has been part of the game forever). Anyway, I wasn't including the submap idea in my distance calculation (hey, I didn't HAVE submaps when I wrote that!) so you were being pulled into scenes if your relative X,Y offset matched the other guy, EVEN IF YOU WERE ON DIFFERENT MAPS. Ooops.
* CUSTOM SHOPS. There is a limit to the # of items I can sell in a single shop, and A30 created SO MANY ITEMS that most of them can't be bought in the mega-store wallmarts on the A30 map. So, the A31 map has smaller shops with more tightly-controlled levels. (Port shrimpee only sells level 80-99 for example). So you'll have to travel around to find a specific item. But that's how these games usually work. Some things, like potions, are pretty universally available. Anyway, 66 new shop scenes in A31. And it's nicer this way since they provide local color, and possible plot point locations.
* ENABLE NEWS setting is remembered. Actually it was being remembered already, just on top of your 'enable map smoothing' setting instead. ooops.
* INFERNO REQUIRES FIRE BOOTS. Which means it is now unplayable until you do the fire boot quest (woo hoo, a necessary quest that already exists!) I'll do the water boot quest next, so you can get into the Sea Grotto (I think that's a pretty map, by the way). I am making it so you only have to wear the boots to get in. You can take them off after that and walk on lava without it hurting. Must be magic :-)
* QUEST ITEMS LIMITED TO ONE PER CUSTOMER. If an item is a quest item (set to cost 0 GP in the item table), attempts to give extra copies of it to a hero will reset the hero to having only one. This way, even a broken script can't hand out multiples. However, if you already have multiples, you won't get reset until the next time you are given another one - which may never happen)
* LEVEL-CHANGING RULES CHANGE AGAIN! Okie Dokie, it was too hard, it was too easy, it was too hard, now it is a bit easier again. I changed the 200K max to a sliding scale. So, XP per level is the smaller of two values. A linear value which increases with current level (with 250K needed for level 99-100, if that were possible). And a geometric value which increases a certain percentage of the previous level. So, the early levels are unchanged (easy), with proportional difficulty increases until eventually you slip into the linear section at the end. My level 87 character was boosted to level 92 as a result of this change, to give you an idea of the effect this might have on your higher level characters. Again, total XP is preserved, so we can play this game forever without really costing you actual XP :-)
* ALL BOOTS AVAILABLE. The fire, water, rubber, and various specialty movement boots are now all available somewhere or another, even if no big quest is required.
* LINK EDITOR SUPPORTS WEATHER AND FX. For each link point you can now specify the default FX and weather to be used in nearby camp/fight scenes. This means I can now have the lava bubble in Inferno and the Sea Grotto is really underwater. Plus, my favorite, snow!
* NEW GAME IN TOWN - MONSTER RACER. (Thanks to Ben for the almost-pun name, and thanks to [your name here] for the suggestion!) It's like slobber slots, but it is a 4-way race. Costs 100GP to play, you win 500GP if your horse wins, get your money back if your horse comes in second, otherwise you lose. This means that statistically it's a money-making machine. Heck, why not? I was going to make it all complicated with odds and all, but it's kinda fun in this simple form.
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Again, don't be miffed WHEN I edit your reply, AND delete all or portions of it. Nothing personal, this is just a 'special topic' in that way. As usual, you are making great suggestions and some of them are just going on my "Big List", so you may not see them in the next release.
Thanks again!
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Posts: 10561 | From: California | Registered: Dec 1998
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I agree with DragonLord about it being too easy to flee. Don't know how you'd work the nuts-n-bolts of it, though. DL came up with a good possible way to figure it.
Posts: 1463 | From: Myzan | Registered: Dec 1999
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I started looking in the efects.bmp (spell efects) and I have some effects of my own and slaped the in there and I think they look kinda cool. [snip]
[ I *think* I made it so you can have your own effects file for your world... however, please feel free to mail me cool effects additions to be included in the standard set. And no, changes you make to effects on your machine will not be seen by the other players. - samsyn]
~DragonLord
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Posts: 833 | From: Nowhere special | Registered: Oct 1999
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hmm, like the idea about enchanting. I alwyas thought about that but never really had any ideas. Which gives me an idea off of that. make like a blacksmith where you can pay alot and have him work on your armor or sword or something. like 50k gold to get +5 Attack from a sword (usable only once), or 35k to give your armor a slight protection vs fire but weak to water. this idea is about 85% stolen from the enchant idea up there, so I only get 15% credit if it works out (but he gets 85% blame if it dosen't )
[I like the idea of enchantments, myself. It will be on the back burner though, as it is an architectural problem to implement - sort of similar to diseases which last after you leave the scene - I mean I have to solve the same problem -samsyn]
~DragonLord
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Posts: 833 | From: Nowhere special | Registered: Oct 1999
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That's a lot better than jumping to 200K per level around level 40 or 50.
There are 2 swords with A255 at different levels, El Diablo being one of them, the other is a level 92 sword.
[OK, I knew you were crazy about this one, as the quest table clearly disagrees with your statement. But, of course, it turns out there is a 255 limit on that attribute, and I had a little math error in the sword table as a result. Now the sword table parallels the other right-hand tables]
Does this mean the limit has been raised above 255? Or is the maximum 255 flat out?
[the max is still 255 but there was a place in the sword table where I increased the A too much in one step]
32k EXP cap interferes with any fights bigger than the 3 Scissorjaw + 2 Troll combo, if you decide to make a bigger fight.
[given the max XP level change is 250K, that's only 8 32K fights, so I think this fits under the canopy of 'balance' Allowing higher XP per fight puts pressure in all the inflationary directions.. need more levels.. more this.. more that.]
I didn't say the fights had to be EASY, did I?
Using the Quest editor while in a Multiplayer game on a Mix server results in missing graphics, and when you leave the world and try to return, it shows no worlds available, and no background image shown either.
[I can totally not recreate this. I'll need a more detailed recipe for the disaster]
I'll try to make a step-by-step recreation soon.
The area outside of Reaper's Temple has no monsters in the fight scene, it just automatically awards 0 exp/0 gp, and an occasional item or two.
[fixed]
Sell all sells one item at a time, and refreshes the list each time, making it a slow process for large quantities of an item.
[there is a certain class of operation which is intentionally unwieldy. If this were a business app, it would make sense to automate it. But as a game, I think some things like this are actually part of the experience. I always run to the SENSE HEADING command in everquest as an example of this. If you really went into a weapons shop and sold 200 gloves, it would take awhile for the gloves to get handed over.. Likewise, one big button which automatically sold everything you didn't want in one click would be convenient, but I think in the long run it would be detrimental to the game. Like an auto-pilot which automatically walked your character around and slugged out the fights for it would be convenient... It's a tough call though, since some things are just plain irritating.]
True, but selling one at a time is a bit tedious. Maybe sell in bunches of 5 or 10? But if you think about it, if you have a sack with 200 gauntlets, basically, you CAN hand it over all at once. Same with a pack with a dozen swords. But I do see your point. I just hate that it locks up WoS for the duration of the selling.
[well, it's pretty unusual to have a large number of an item that you want to get rid off.. I mean through normal play]
The large Moraysaur has the white guide lines showing.
Some skins have incorrect transparent information (the first pixel is black instead of the background color).
[As near as I can tell, all the skins I ship with the game are OK. Do you have names? There have been problem copies of the atlatler and one other in the past, but I think the official release have clean versions]
I can't give names because I edited the skins myself to fix them. But atlater was one of them.
[ok, then I think the official distribution is OK]
I noticed you can click on the column headers in shop menus to sort items, but when you sort by type, the level numbers aren't in order. However, if you sort by price, the levels go in order due to the increase in prices.
[more laziness on my part, but fixed now]
I see you're a bit like me. I don't do much until someone comes after me with a red-hot poker.
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now I know what ya said about being a pker means you gotta live with the high level ppl killing you, but this isn't fair. some ppl (like me in the far beginning) wanted to be pk to duel friends and no more. alot of ppl are like this. but then certain people come along and make it a nightmare for them to level.
Soultion 1) make a cap so where you can only kill someone if they are 5 levels lower on up. unless the low level guy hits first. like Bob can't kill Joe cuz Bob is level 15 and joe is 9. but if Joe hits Bob then it is open hunting season for Bob (don't ask about the names)
Solution 2) This un may require more work but ya know.... make like a duel button or a thing in the file menu called duel. only if both characters have duel clciked/pressed can they fight. This would eliminate the whole being a pk or not thing. and although you can kill someone and go un pk, you can't kill them unless the other guy wanted to duel.
well again these ideas may be tweaked modified etc. but please at least consider them. they could solve quite a few problems I know about...
Posts: 833 | From: Nowhere special | Registered: Oct 1999
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I am going to go ahead and release patchA31 right now, so I will close this topic. Please add new suggestions to the "A32 Development Notes" topic when it appears
Posts: 10561 | From: California | Registered: Dec 1998